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Caryl Matrisciana
Guest Speaker on Sound Off with John W. Spring
Topic: Sudanese Christians and Harry Potter video
6-8-03

John:
Caryl, welcome to Sound Off.

Caryl:
Well John, thank you. What an amazing entry to your show this evening. I wonder, did you get the film that I sent you that we made on Sudan, The Hidden Holocaust?

John:
I didn't get the one on the Hidden Holocaust, however, I received and reviewed the more recent one that you have done on terrorism, which includes a portion of the Hidden Holocaust.

Caryl:
Oh yes. Yeah, because that film, we made that based on a book by Dr. Peter Hammond which was Faith Under Fire in Sudan. I would encourage your listeners to contact Dr. Peter Hammond's ministry. He is actually the head of Frontline Fellowship which is in South Africa, and he is a pastor that goes regularly to the Sudanese Christians, and he has such an understanding of their plight. In fact, it was he that led my husband, Pat, into Sudan where he filmed the Hidden Holocaust. Dr. Peter Hammond has got just the most incredible ministry which your listeners could contact here in this country. I would love to give the phone number of the In Touch Mission International for you listeners to contact the ministry that could send them Sudan, the Hidden Holocaust where they could see the most incredible footage of the brave, brave Sudanese Christians that are constantly under fighting by the Islam jihadists. How their churches are formed, how their fields and crops are set on fire. How these children are killed and maimed, how they are taken as slaves for the army. You will actually see footage in this movie, Sudan, The Hidden Holocaust, which shows these brave and wonderful soldiers confiscating tanks and weapons so that they can fight back. Do you know that this has been the longest war of the 20th Century? It is still in progress in Sudan, it has been going on since 1955. The Muslim Arab North has been attacking the Christian black South. This war has recently intensified with systematic terror bombing campaigns to civilian centers, to hospitals, to schools, to churches. We have got some of the bombed wreckage of the hospitals and schools and churches. It is a really, really powerful documentary based on, as I mentioned, Dr. Peter Hammond's best selling book Faith Under Fire in Sudan. It is an incredible film with hundreds of hours of video and film footage. Pat actually went into the front lines and beyond the enemy lines of the colossal conflict.

John:
Yes. Caryl do you have any idea how long ago that film was actually made?

Caryl:
Yes, in actual fact, I wrote it and produced it 3-4 years ago, we finished it in about 1999, so in about 2000 it was released. Of course much more damage continues to take place, but it's still invaluable film footage. It is inspiring and it is just fabulous, it is a very moving story of the courageous Christians that are standing firm in an island of Christianity, basically in a sea of Islam. They are resisting jihad, holy war, on the frontline of the battle for faith and freedom. This war has been going on for 43 years and it is incredible to see these people's face.

John:
Well if I may give out your toll-free number for Jeremiah Films, it's 1-800-828-2290.

Caryl:
Actually it isn't John, I have got to correct that for this particular film. It needs to be corrected. It's 888-918-4100.

John:
Okay, will you give that to us once more?

Caryl:
It's 888-918-4100. That is for the film Sudan, The Hidden Holocaust, which is Dr. Peter Hammond's ministry, In Touch Mission International.

John:
Okay, very fine. We are gong to a break, but as soon as we get back we will continue with our gracious host and marvelous guest, Caryl Matrisciana.

John:
Welcome back to Sound Off, John W. Spring, and our guest this evening is Caryl Matrisciana of Jeremiah Films. Caryl, as you can understand after having seen two separate films on the Sudan situation, why I am so motivated and moved to do whatever I can through this broadcast to inform our listeners as to how crucial this situation is over in the Sudan.

Caryl:
Oh, it is absolutely incredible. In fact, there was a Christian leader that was burned to death with his wife and four children just recently. It just happened, I think, last week. At least 59 people were killed in the Sudan, 15 were injured, 10 of them were children, and 6 women were abducted when the Sudanese government forces just came in and attacked 10 villages in Southern Sudan. I don't think that people in America understand, I mean we had our 9-11 and we were just devastated when over 3,000 innocent people were killed in the Muslim war of jihad, when these 19 martyrs flew into the Twin Towers and into the Pentagon. It was just devastation, but here for 43 years the Sudanese people have had this kind of jihad in their villages. These attacks happen all the time with them. They live under this constant Islam jihad motivated horror. I mean, can you imagine that there are generations of kids, with it going on for 43 years, there are 4 generations of kids that have grown up with this kind of fighting. The government militia there, because it is a Muslim government, they just attacked the village of Longochok in Eastern upper Nile using a combination of rocket-propelled grenades. There were heavy machine guns, assault rifles, and they just come in, these troops just come in, they are the Sudanese regular army and they set these people's huts ablaze. Many villagers just got burned to death in their homes. They burned alive a Presbyterian minister, the region's only Christian pastor, and he was burned to death along with his wife and four children. These government troops came and surrounded their home and threatened to shoot any family member attempting to escape the flames, so these people were roasted to death. This kind of continuing violation just carries on and these people live under this kind of terror. I would encourage your listeners to get in touch with In Touch Mission International which is in Arizona at that phone number I gave you, 888-918-4100, speak to them and ask how your listeners can help get this horrible travesty known to our government officials and what can we as Christians in this country do. I would encourage them to purchase Sudan, The Hidden Holocaust from the In Touch Mission International and see this footage for themselves. These attacks just continue unabated in both Eastern and Western upper-Nile regions, despite the signing of the second, and supposedly more comprehensive MOU attempts to stop these fusations of hostilities. It just carries on, and the National Islamic Front government has actively hindered international attempts to monitor the events, just as the jihad movement and the Hamas and the Al Aksa brigades do in Palestine, where these horrible jihad movements are training young children to blow themselves up in restaurants and at bus stops in Israel. Here we have this same kind of jihad, illegal military activity going on in Sudan. We should be outraged, we should be outraged for our fellow human beings that are going through this kind of horrendous terrorist violation.

John:
Yes we should be outraged Caryl. I believe that our listeners, those that are listening to this program, and there must be several thousand, will take the initiative to write a letter to congress, to members of the Senate, and to the President, and to the Secretary of State, that this will make a difference. Letters are read and reviewed, and this puts the government on notice that they cannot continue business as usual, that they must take some appropriate action, or else we're going to elect a new government basically.

Caryl:
Well I think also because this just seems as though it is such a far off country, it just doesn't affect American lives. Last month during its six monthly review of the Sudanese Peace Process, the U.S. government disappointed many in the Southern Sudanese community there by failing to censor Sudan for its continuous violations of the peace process. I think this failure occurred in the wake of a decision by the United Nations Human Rights Commission to upgrade Sudan's human rights status and end the mandate of the special repertoire on human rights in Sudan. I know that the attacks have continued and the Sudanese foreign minister was meeting in Washington with the U.S. Secretary of State, and they are stating that a peace agreement was in sight, but still we see this horrible, horrible jihad carry on. We see the burning of human beings alive, that aren't even aloud to rush out of burning homes and have to die with their bodies just being burned because the Sudanese government are around Southern military garrisons, they are around with their guns saying that they will shoot them if they dare to come out of these flames. It is absolutely hideous, hideous, inhumane, barbaric behavior.

John:
Yes it is, and yet it is inspiring to note that the black African Christians are determined to rebuild again, and again, and again. They never give up.

Caryl:
They don't. They've carried this on for 43 years and I'll tell you the stories that my husband Pat brought back from Sudan were just absolutely elevating and incredible. There was this incredible story of just a few villagers, of these brave courageous men, that just dared to stand against an invasion. The troops were coming that had tanks and had all the ammunition, and they suddenly just left their tanks and ammunition and just fled. The villagers, The Sudanese Christians, ran off to them and in the name of the Lord they just ran and ran after these people and captured them, captured their guns, captured their ammunition. If any of them were wounded they brought them back to their Christian hospitals, which is much more than the other side does.

John:
Far more humane.

Caryl:
They asked some of the prisoners, "Why did you run?" The prisoners said, "Because we saw all those white people, the army of people standing behind you and we were terrified." The Lord must have just given them angels to stand behind them.

John:
Absolutely.

Caryl:
It's stories like this that make these Christian soldiers who are up there high, high in the Nuba Mountains share their Bibles. They tear out pages from their Bibles and share them among the villagers. Peter Hammond, Dr. Peter Hammond that I mentioned, has this video Sudan, The Hidden Holocaust which is based on his book, Peter Hammond has these incredible stories and he takes up food and Bibles and medical supplies up to the Sudanese Christians. He trains missionaries in South Africa, in Capetown actually, to go to the Sudan. He comes to this country every now and again and is a wonderful speaker, an absolutely inspiring speaker, I just love him and his courage. I would encourage your listeners to contact his ministry at the 888 number that I gave, and just support him and find out how we can write letters and who we should write them to. The mission, In touch Missions International will help.

John:
I make no apologies for bringing up the topic of the black African Christians in the Southern Sudan, but as promised we should probably discuss the Harry Potter situation.

Caryl:
Yes, yes. Well thank you, it's just that your opening just brought back all these memories to me, and I thought we can't just let just a wonderful occasion go. Actually, yes, on June the 21st, in just another couple of weeks, not only does summer begin, but book #5 of the British author J.K. Rowling's seven books, a seven part series is the Harry Potter series and book #5 is going to be released at the same time all around the world to the global children to indoctrinate them yet further into the fifth year of the witches schooling. Harry Potter is of course this young witch that at 11 years old discovered that his parents were witches and that he was going to be sent to a thousand-year-old occult boarding school where his teachers, who are well-trained occultists, will be able to teach this little 11-year-old boy and the 350 other students at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, all about the 101 basics of witchcraft. Book #2 took us into Harry's 12th year, and #3 into his 13th year, book #4 into his 14th year. Now we are going to have book #5 on June 21st, as Harry, a young 15-year-old boy, gets involved in darker and darker occultism, plus adventures and humor. Of course, these books are written in such a humorous and appealing way, they are fascinating, that 34 million children just in America alone who are being read these books aloud in the classroom in public schools across America, where the Bible has been outlawed because of its religious content. These books are basic 101 witchcraft, they are coming in and with U.S. tax dollars are being read aloud in the classroom.

John:
Well Caryl, we must take a long break this time, but please stay with us. When we come back we will be discussing the forthcoming fifth edition of a series of these books. Please stand by. Our number here at KPLS is 1-800-551-3880. Stand by.

John:
Welcome back to Sound Off with John W. Spring. Our guest tonight is Caryl Matrisciana with Jeremiah Films. Caryl, before we get back to Harry Potter I just thought I might mention that Jeremiah Films produces so many outstanding films, would it be appropriate at this time to give that toll-free number?

Caryl:
Well actually Jeremiah Films, of course you can if you want, but the video that I am talking about comes under the umbrella of Caryl Productions, because Jeremiah Films is now making theatrical film releases and has stopped making hard cutting-edge documentaries. I was the co-founder of Jeremiah Films for 21 years, we have been writing and producing wonderful documentaries. Now I am continuing with that documentary aspect, whereas the theatrical film releases is something different. So certainly the 800 number is 897-5085. 1800-897-5085. Anybody can look under my web page which is Caryltv.com and be able to order the Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged video, or the one that we talked about, The New Barbarians, Training Children to Kill, which is the latest video about how the jihad movement is continuing in America through terrorism of strapping these young children with explosives and detonation to be, in essence, genocide and homicide bombs. Of course, we see the jihad movement's horrible work in Sudan, that while there are peace talks going on here between America and Sudan, we know that women and children are being abducted by the jihad movement in Sudan. These people are being taken off as slaves and the United Kingdom Representative, Baroness Caroline Cox, said that the current situation in Sudan was worse than she had ever witnessed during her visits to Sudan, because of the continuing attacks by the Sudanese government are on unarmed civilians. She finds it particularly disturbing in the view of the current peace talks, and it just raises such very serious questions of the sincerity of these peace talks. I think that the American government's reluctance to immediately and thoroughly investigate previous world documented atrocities in the upper Nile region is completely understandable, but the government of Sudan led military forces feel that they can kill and enslave these civilians, and we need to be up in arms against this barbaric behavior.

John:
Yes we do Caryl, and as long as we're on the radio I am determined to call to the attention of our listening audience the atrocities being committed by the Khartoum regime in Sudan. Now our board is lit up, we have so many calls, and so little time. If it is alright with you I would like to go to these callers as soon as possible.

Caryl:
Of course, yes please.

John:
Okay, let's go first to Wendy. Wendy, welcome to Sound Off.

Wendy:
It's great to be on your show. Hi Caryl.

Caryl:
Hey Wendy, nice to hear your voice again.

Wendy:
How ya doing? Listen, I can't wait to see you Thursday at the Forum. The thing with Harry Potter is that the parents need to be aware when you are, especially elementary level, if you are going to read books that you do need to look at them, because they do have cults and symbolism and you do need to explain to your children about this kind of a book. They do have certain symbolism in the book, so you do have to use some common sense. You know what I'm saying Caryl?

Caryl:
Absolutely, I agree with you and I think that this is the kind of thing that parents just are so excited that, supposedly, their children are reading, that they don't understand that the contents of the book is what need to be examined. It's rather like being excited about our children reading pornography, it's the content of what they read that we should be concerned about. Especially, what I bring out, is that these children aren't actually even being taught to read, the issue is that the teachers are reading to the children aloud in the classrooms, books of a religious nature, and they expel the Bible because of its religious content, yet teach witchcraft. And they actually direct to the children, through the curriculum, to go into Wiccan websites and be proselytized by witches who are thrilled that teenagers are being attracted to witchcraft through the Harry Potter series. In fact, it is the fastest growing religion amongst teenagers in this country.

John:
Wendy, before I let you go, do you want to give your time and address for the audience.

Wendy:
Yeah, yeah. If you want to see Caryl Matrisciana in person you can come to the Granada Republic Forum, we're at 5657 Lindley Ave., Tarzana, CA, just north of Burbank Blvd. Our phone number is 818-385-4003. That is 818-385-4003.

Caryl:
And Wendy, it is going to be at 8 o'clock at night. I was going to come and speak at breakfast at 8 o'clock in the morning, and Wendy said, "No, no Caryl, you have to come in the evening."

Wendy:
Well, I can't wait to see you. I know there are other callers John. I love you Caryl. I love you John. Great program. I'll see you on Thursday Caryl.

Caryl:
Thank you Wendy, I am looking forward to that.

Wendy:
Okay, bye, bye..

Caryl:
Goodnight.

John:
Bye, bye Wendy. We have David of Alhambra on the line. David, welcome to Sound Off.

David:
John and Caryl, thank you so much for exposing the crisis in Sudan. I had a question, John you mentioned Russia and China have helped the government of Sudan in their jihad against the Christians.

John:
Yes they have.

David:
I have actually read Peter Hammond's book. He mentioned numerous times that the United Nations also was helping with food for the Islamic government and provided them with an Air Force.

John:
This is true. All of the food goes to the Sudanese Army and the jihadists, none of it goes to the Christian black Africans.

David:
So the situation is still the same? The United Nations is still on the side of the Islamic North and their war?

Caryl:
Absolutely right, and in Peter Hammond's film, Sudan the Hidden Holocaust, you actually see the United Nations' airplanes and food being lifted out of the airplanes. The amazing thing is that the Christian Sudanese, some of them who are so hungry, aren't even given this. But if they change their names, their Christian names, to Muslim names, then they can have the food.

David:
And also Bibles have been banned by the United Nations, as far as importing them.

Caryl:
It's hideous, the whole plight is hideous. I am just so excited that John is bringing the attention of his listeners to this. I really feel that the U.S. Department is as much to fault, at fault for these atrocities, as is the government of Sudan.

David:
Well that is absolutely right because the United Nations gets 25% of the budget from our federal elected officials. The legislative branch and the Bush administration, the Carter Administration, the Clinton Administration, so…..

John:
Absolutely.

David:
….. thank you so much John and Caryl for exposing the fact that the Bushes, the Clintons, etcetera, basically have been funding the war against Christians. This makes it hard to believe that any of them are really Christians if they are going to fund a war against Christians.

Caryl:
Exactly David, and that is in a sense what is even happening with the Palestinian/Israeli problem where American dollars are going to the Palestinians. Yet on the other hand, they're talking peace with the Israelis, you know, the American government is torn between funding both sides, in a sense, and trying to bring peace to Israel, yet giving the PLO money to fight the war against Israel.

David:
Problem solution, create a problem and we'll impose a solution. That's the name of the game.

John:
You've got it David. Thank you so much for your call.

David:
Thank you.

John:
We now have Tim from Los Angeles on the line. Tim, welcome to Sound Off with John W. Spring.

Tim:
Hi John and Caryl. How come you can't read the Bible in the schools, but you can read the Potter books? And John, would you like to be my running mate because I'm running for President? I'd like you to be my Vice President.

John:
Well Tim, I am going to have to decline at this time, but on a more serious note, let me have Caryl answer the question that you have just asked.

Caryl:
Well that is exactly my point Tim, that is why I made this video called Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged, Making Evil Look Innocent, because what it is showing is that young children today are being indoctrinated in a world view, in a pagan world view, through the Harry Potter series that is being read aloud by teachers in the classroom. And incredibly, the publishers of the Harry Potter books, Scholastic Inc., are also the suppliers of curriculum to the public schools and have done this for 80 years. So here we have an amazing conflict of interest where the publishers are bringing in the Harry Potter books, then the curriculum is attached to internet outlets that lead the children into Wiccan sites where they can ask the witches questions about witchcraft, which Harry Potter writes about. While Harry Potter is fictional, the characters are fictional, the story is based on real witchcraft which millions of witches practice around the world, hundreds and thousands of them in America that practice the same things that Harry is taught in his school of witchcraft and wizardry. Harry learns about Mother Goddess, and of course that is the foundation of paganism and the witchcraft movement in this country. Meditation, black magic, curses, spells, divination, sorcery, and occult symbology, which Wendy mentioned. Also evolution and reincarnation and demon possession and seasonal nature celebrations, communing with the dead and the spirit world, all this takes place in the Harry Potter books. Harry communicates with the dead. Children in the schools are being read these books aloud, they are vicariously being taught the same pagan world views that Harry is learning.

John:
Well Tim, thank you so much for your question, and I may have to consider seriously your candidacy for President.

Tim:
Thank you.

John:
Now going to, I believe it is Carlos of Carson. Carlos, welcome to Sound Off.

Carlos:
Good evening. John, I have to commend you, you have some fantastic guests there at your program. You know, Caryl, the atrocities that you just described in the Sudan, in my opinion, are part and parcel one method that the new world order to some of its agents in this instance there, the radical Islam, are using to depopulate the world of certain races. For instance, Africans, and depopulate the world in Latin America with many of the indigenous populations. They are using various methods, one you described which is the terrorism that is taking place in Sudan, but they are also using other methods. The IMF and the World Bank are bankrupting African countries, Latin countries, and they are forcing people really to the point of drinking polluted water and denying hospital care to many Africans that are dying of AIDS. Other methods of course include the vaccination with the AIDS virus of millions of Africans through the World Health Organization. The drought that they imposed in Africa the last few years which, in my opinion, are weather controlled droughts, the end result of all this is of course the death of millions of people. It is a deliberate plan to depopulate the world incompatibility. They accomplish this with their Project 2000 objectives of reducing the world population substantially.

Caryl:
Carlos you are so right in many of your insights. I think that what people don't understand is that the Goals 2000, which is also being taught in American schools, the Harry Potter curriculum fits right in with the indoctrination and brainwashing of hundreds and thousands of American kids. The Goals 2000 ideas of death and reincarnation and environmental, the teaching of environmentalism, politically of course it's called environmentalism, but in the pagan world view it is called earth worship. Which of course is Mother Nature worship and goddess worship. So, all this is taking place in the supposedly children's fantasy literature brought into the school systems. And again, I think that we should be outraged that basic 101 witchcraft and paganism can be taught to young children in our school systems with our American tax payers' money. Of course witchcraft is a religion, it has been given religious status by the Supreme Court, there are Wiccan chaplains in the military, and the IRS gives witchcraft tax exempt status. Many people think this is just fantasy religion and it doesn't really exist, but hundred and thousands of believers have got religious status of this religion and it is being taught at a child's level to our children as part of the Goals 2000 curriculum. It is very, very, very shocking.

Carlos:
Well Caryl I couldn't agree with you more. They are teaching gradually paganism, and of course the indirect result of all that really is the death of Christianity. As more kids are infiltrated with paganism you are going to see a gradual disappearance of Christianity.

Caryl:
Yes, it is not even gradual. I mean, here you see these kids that are being indoctrinated with another world view because, for instance, Harry cheats, lies, and steals. He has relativism as his moral code, if you will, and the teachers in his Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry reward Harry when he cheats and lies by putting him onto the hockey team, commending him, and overseeing anything that he has done wrong. So this morality, or lack of morality, is being taught to kids through the Harry Potter books that children too can lie and cheat and steal, and that they do not need to be submitted to authority. They can make up their own moral and ethical rules. J.K. Rowling, the author of these books says, yes she considers these books to be very moral. She is teaching the children the difference between good and evil, but the good and evil that they are learning is the difference between white magic, which is seen as good, and black magic, which is seen as bad. But, the Bible says that both of these are rooted in the same source, and it is a source that is contrary to the creator God's goodness.

John:
And Caryl and Carlos, when you consider that half of the current American school children have read at least one of these books already, it is an alarming situation. Carlos thank you again, don't be a stranger, call as often as you like. We enjoy your comments.

Carlos:
Good evening.

John:
Going now to Aloha Ronnie in Chino. Aloha Ronnie, welcome to Sound Off.

Ronnie:
Aloha Sound Off and John W. Spring, I'll tell you, you're far more interesting, and your guests are far more interesting to listen to than 3 hours of Matt Drudge any night, I'll tell you.

John:
Well that's a pretty hard act to follow.

Caryl:
Well that is very exciting. I hope that John's listeners support him financially so that he can continue to stay on the air.

Ronnie:
Amen. He does get down to the heart of the matter. I was a little concerned about Larry Nichols. You know Larry Nichols, The Clinton Chronicles that you produced, Jeremiah Films. Larry Nichols was a guest on the George Putnam show earlier this week and he mentioned a little thing in passing, and I am wondering if you might be able to shed a little bit more light on it. He shared with the radio audience that Steven Spielberg is making a movie based on some part, at least, of The Clinton Chronicles, and that the part where Larry Nichols is involved with the McDougals, or something like that, that the rights of that have been sold to Steven Spielberg to have this movie available out there at election time next year. Can you shed a little light of what was extracted, if it was extracted, from The Clinton Chronicles, and how that may come out to us in film form next year?

Caryl:
You know that is a really good question and I really won't be able to answer it with any direct knowledge, because that is something that I remember that Larry and my husband Pat talked about several years ago, negotiating this film with Steven Spielberg, and that Larry did give some insights. I know that The Clinton Chronicles, the basic information, was used. But, I can't tell you in what ways and what parts of it are used. It's not that I'm holding anything back, I just really don't know the details.

John:
Just for clarification of Ronnie's statement, Larry did allege that the contract was signed between Jeremiah Films and Steven Spielberg for a certain amount of footage from The Clinton Chronicles. We have no way of confirming this one way or the other at this time.

Ronnie:
For a certain amount of money. Just interesting, it's something to follow. We appreciate your giving us clarity so much. Jeremiah Films has been such a Godsend in clarity. During the time when we knew we were in a new time of war, even before September 11th, that was during the whole Clinton presidency. My hat is off to you and your husband.

Caryl:
Thank you. They were hard years and we had our 16 million dollar lawsuit which took its tremendous toll. I was very, very thrilled when we won the appeal and the court case got thrown out of court.

Ronnie:
We didn't know that, good, congratulations!

Caryl:
Of course you win the appeal, but you still lose financially and all. When it was thrown out of court nobody paid any financial bills or anything like that.

Ronnie:
Oh great!

Caryl:
At least it was taken out of court and couldn't be taken any further.

Ronnie:
God is good. Prayers were answered. God bless.

Caryl:
Thank you Ronnie.

John:
Caryl could you go over the name of the company which you are now using?

Caryl:
Yes, it's Caryl Productions. The names I have are complicated, Matrisciana is complicated, so we thought we would just keep it at Caryl. C-a-r-y-l tv.com. Caryltv.com, that is my web page. Then, to order the Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged, Making Evil Look Innocent video, I have a toll-free number which is 1-800-897-5080. 1-800-897-5080.

John:
Okay, I'm trying really hard to get these 800 numbers right for you because I promised your associate that I would endeavor to get them out on the air.

Caryl:
Thank you. It's 1-800-897-5080 and that's for Caryltv.com.

John:
Well Desmond if you're listening, I tried to be a man of my word.

Caryl:
Desmond will be thrilled and I will tell him.

John:
Very good.

Caryl:
Thank you John.

John:
Thank you Caryl. We just have a few more minutes left before we have to sign off. Are there any last minute thoughts or comments you would like to make either regarding the Sudan, The New Barbarians, or The Harry Potter series?

Caryl:
Well, you know, I would just encourage your listeners to understand that our children are being indoctrinated and brainwashed. Of course, in The New Barbarians we have got 10,000 Arab children a year going through these horrible schools of indoctrination teaching them to be involved in terrorists activities, which is even taking place here in America. My movie The New Barbarians shows these children being trained. Then to see it being done now through the school programs with Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged, we've got book #5 coming out on June 21st. I would just encourage your listeners to buy this video Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged and give it to school boards and schools, school members, and educational facilities and show that this religious indoctrination cannot be in our schools. Or if it is, then at least allow the Bible to also come in. I'm sure the Muslims would like the Koran to come in too, but if we are going to have one, then we must be entitled to have them all. Otherwise, give our children reading programs that don't invite paganism.

John:
Well Caryl, there is my background music. Again, I thank you so much. It has really been an honor to have you on your program again.

Caryl:
Thank you John, so much.

John:
And, Lord willing, if we are on beyond June, we would like to have you on again.

Caryl:
Thank you so much John. Goodnight, and thank you so much for your support.

John:
The Lord bless you.

Caryl:
Thank you. Bye, bye.