Steven:
Welcome ladies and gentleman, my name is Steven. Welcome to the Republic Forum. Thank you for coming out this evening. We are going to have a unique speaker tonight, Carlie Matrisciana. As in the past we have had speakers such as John Spring who gave us some insight as to what's going on over in the Middle East. Carlie is going to go ahead and give us some information, not only that, but we're going to see some videos tonight. She is going to talk about how young people, children, are being somewhat manipulated, for a better term, mind control, as we have here in our nation called another name, Outcome Based Education. It's amazing what we can do to young ones to manipulate them to allow further manipulation. So at this time I would like to bring Carlie up, let's give her a big… Caryl? The paper said Carlie, anyways let's have a warm welcome for Carlie, or for Caryl.

Caryl:
Well, thank you, thank you very much. It's because it is spelled in a strange way. It is spelled C-a-r-y-l, and I am called Carlie, and Carl, and Caryl, and you know what? It's alright, because that way I can make my name known. Although if you want to go to my web page you'd have to know that it was spelled in a different way. It is spelled Caryltv.com. So it's always a topic of conversation.

Now just in case you think I've got the accent, I always think all of you have the accent. I actually, I'm English, married to a Texan, living in America, born in India. Is that confusing? I was the last British baby born in British India, fifth generation, raised in India, and surrounded by Eastern Mysticism, Hinduism, Islam, and the culture of India. So, it was a very interesting upbringing. In the 60's, when my parents left India, we came to England, and at that time there was the revolution taking place worldwide with the Beatles making a tremendous impact with their music and turning everybody to the East in Eastern enlightenment and Eastern wisdom. Having just come from the East, and being raised there and living there, I didn't really see the glamorous side that was being portrayed through the 60's Flower Power Movement. Of course that was the time that Hollywood was turning to Eastern meditation and drugs and hallucinogenic and mind altering, not only through chemical and drug addiction, but also through yoga, meditation, visualization, and that was the birth of the beginning of what we know today as the New Age Movement, which has taken on a real metamorphosis in so many ways. Coming through, sort of initially through drugs, but then coming through the school system where in the 60's the Bible was taken out in the schools, prayer, the Ten Commandments was taken out, and one wasn't allowed to teach morality. Yet today, we have Harry Potter which is basic 101 witchcraft and paganism being read aloud in the classroom on U.S. tax-payers dollars. Young children are being taught witchcraft through the adventures of a little 11-year-old witch, who in book #1, 4 or 5 years ago, was eleven, book #2 12 years old, book #3 13-14 years old. Book #5 is coming out on June the 21st, which interestingly enough on the pagan calendar is of course a very auspicious day, the Summer Solstice, and each of the Harry Potter releases are done on nature dates, on mystery religion dates to bring, in their view of thinking, the most power through the forces into the world released through, you know, spiritual powers and principalities.

I made this film, now I personally, about 30 years ago, started getting involved in the media. I had majored in art and graphic design, then got involved in a graphic design studio in film and modeling, and eventually got involved in being able to control, rather than being one side of the camera, able to be the other side of the camera and control what was being put out. For the last 25 years or so I have been a filmmaker and was the cofounder of Jeremiah Films and the Creative Director of Jeremiah Films, wrote and made about 30 documentaries. The two latest ones are the ones that I am going to be talking about this evening, which are Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged, Making Evil Look Innocent and The New Barbarians. Both of these are very topical issues.

On World Net Daily today they put out an article about Harry Potter, and very kindly and graciously mentioned me as a filmmaker and occult expert, talking on the Harry Potter issue in which led to me being on a radio station today and a couple of days ago. I think the interesting thing about the Harry Potter issue is actually listening to the people call in, young children that were introduced to witchcraft. I think what we need to realize is that witchcraft is the fastest growing religion among teenagers in this country. The young people that were calling in and saying yes that they had gotten introduced and lured into witchcraft and a fascination for witchcraft through the Harry Potter books. Today's article in World Net Daily started off by saying that the Harry Potter books have helped increase interest in witchcraft around the world. This is according to a representatives of witchcraft, the Wiccan group sponsoring one of the, in fact, the largest European witchcraft and Wicca event recorded in history is going to take place in Scotland next month. They credit Harry Potter, that it has had a positive effect on witchcraft. Of course many people will say it's just fantasy literature, it's just fiction, no big deal. I am going to open up this evening, later on, for your questions. I would like us to talk about it because obviously, you know, answering your questions would be much more relevant than me going on. There is a growing interest in Wicca. It is being, interestingly enough, the publishers of Harry Potter also happen to be curriculum providers for the American schools for the last 80 years. So here we have Scholastic Inc. who have provided curriculum material in public schools, who are also the publishers of this 101 manual of witchcraft. J.K. Rowling, the author of Harry Potter, promises that the books get darker and darker. We have got #5, as I say, coming out on June 21st. We have another two years, consecutive years, of book #6 and #7. She has written a seven part series. She said that she deliberately planned to have seven years in the growing up of an 11-year-old boy to a 17-year-old boy, because she felt that seven years was needed in order to train a wizard. Of course, Harry is being taught in the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, which is a thousand-year-old occult school. His teachers are training the 350 students in the occult, but vicariously the 34 million children that are being introduced to this reading program in American schools, are also being taught the actual rites and ceremonies that form the basis of this religion. It has been given tax-exempt status by the IRS, witchcraft has. The U.S. Supreme Court has deemed it a religion, and of course there are Wicca chaplains in the military. So, to say that this is fantasy and just a make-up religion, of course, is not truly representative of what is taking place. The point is, another very scary point in the whole Harry Potter phenomenon going through public schools is that the curriculum encourages children to investigate the myths and folklore in the Harry Potter books. J.K. Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter series, studied mythology at Exeter University, and is well versed in classical folklore, mythology, and world religions. So she did base Harry Potter on actual ritual, as it is being taught in the various denominations, if you'll call them that, Wicca and witchcraft. So the children then are not only being taught this in the schools, being allowed to or being read to in the classroom, but they are also being encouraged to go into Wiccan websites where Wiccans themselves answer the questions of the children and further introduce them to a pagan world view. That is what is taking place in our schools, and I would just like to remind you, I wrote a book called Gods of the New Age, it was a best-seller, and I've got a video back there based on the book and video working hand and hand. Basically we went back to India, investigated the roots of the New Age Movement, looked into what is meditation, yoga, visualization, which is now showing itself in the culture through psychology, self help, yoga, which is all across the nation from the Y.M.C.A. to in schools and colleges, and is a form of Hindu prayer. It is not physical exercise as it is being advertised to be. But, in that book I had a section on how the New Age is getting through the schools. I would just like to read a piece that I put in there that the public school systems are removing authority from parents. Dr. Pierce, a professor of education and psychiatry at Harvard University, made this statement:

"Every child in America entering school at the age of 5 is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances towards our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward belief in a supernatural being, toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It is up to you teachers to make all of these sick children well by creating the international child of the future."

So this Harry Potter is part of the indoctrination and I would really encourage you to look at this video where I point out the, I've included footage from actual witches, from covens that we went into to film, and we showed their rituals, spells, and interviews are very similar to what is being taught in the Harry Potter books. This is a wonderful resource to show meditation, black magic, curses, spells, divination, sorcery, occult symbology, and all the things that are part of Goals 2000, an outcome based education, that is now being taught to our children through so-called fantasy literature. Harry Potter is being translated into over 48 languages, it is distributed in over 200 countries, it is specifically targeting the global child of the future. Harry has a mark on his forehead which was zapped to him by the evil Lord Voldemort, when the evil Lord Voldemort murdered Harry's parents and was meant to murder Harry, which took place on Halloween night. The scar that was put on Harry's forehead was the lightening bolt, which was the same lightening bolt that was on Hitler's uniform. It is the power, the symbol of authority, and the lightening, of course, is of the god Thor, which Thursday is named after. So this pagan symbology which our children are being indoctrinated with, followers of Harry Potter in allegiance to Harry are putting the mark of the beast that killed Harry onto their own foreheads to show their allegiance to their little hero who has got the allegiance of the global child. It is just interesting how the symbology is working in with the indoctrination process.

Now onto another indoctrination process. About 25 years ago when I came from India and got involved in research in the cults, etcetera, I was helping parents whose children had got involved in the Hare Krishna, in meditation, yoga, and all sorts of Eastern mystical cults or cults based in Eastern mysticism. Because of my background in Hinduism and the language of India, and the experience of having grown up there in the knowledge of the culture, I started working with the European government in helping to be able to distinguish how we could cope with these various religious movements that were breaking up our families and breaking up our social structure. I saw some appalling incidents of brainwashing and cruelty to children, but never, never have I seen the scale of mind twisting, and how an entire generation is being brainwashed and indoctrinated, which is part of my latest film that I just finished about a month and a half ago called The New Barbarians, Training Children to Kill. This footage is absolutely shocking. Much of it is taken off Arab T.V. where everyday Arab children are indoctrinated through children's programming, through children's cartoons, through music programs, to see how they are taught to hate the Jews and Christians and Americans that support them. The footage is very, very shocking. I am going to just take out three segments, it was very hard for me to take out three little segments to show you this evening, to wet your pallet, so to speak. You know, were all so confused about what is taking place in the Middle East. Media is pro Arab. The slot is very confusing. It is hard to work out what the Israelis are doing, what the Palestinians are doing, and what is taking place. What I have tried to do in this video is show the history of the Middle East crisis. Why was the nation of Israel even formed? During the II World War the Jews were being horribly persecuted, incinerated in ovens, millions of them were treated, of course, incarcerated into concentration camps by Hitler, and no nation would come to their help. The Jews turned from country to country, and in the end the United Nations gave them a country called Palestine. I go into the history of Palestine. I explain how much of the land went back to the Arabs, how the land is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. It is now the size of New Jersey, a sixteenth the size of America, a small little piece of democracy in the middle of the Arab nation. The issue isn't how much land the Jews should have. The issue by the Palestinians and Yassar Arafat and the PLO is the annihilation of the Jews completely, that the Jews should absolutely not be in the Middle East. I am going to show you a few little clips, and my greatest concern is the brainwashing of an entire generation. That is basically what this film is showing, how Hitler trained his young children, The Brown Shirts. How Saddam Hussein has 70,000 young children in his army trained from 12-17 years old. One of them, I don't think I put in the clip, where you actually have Saddam's soldiers, young little boys, a 14-year-old boy, tearing apart a dead chicken with his hands and teeth. There is other footage, but there was just so much to give to you and show you, I just took out several sections. These children are being trained in such hatred that I don't know how it is going to be reversed. It also shows the training of these young kids is taking place also in America. So the first little section will show, which is footage from Arab T.V., yeah, I think we'll just press it to #1, it that's okay with you, then I'll tell you when to stop.

Caryl:
I am narrating the film just in case you are wondering how the same voice is in there.

(Showing film clips)

Caryl:
So that is one segment of the absolutely horrifying footage that is training these very young children, at a very young age, to be, as the Press calls it, "suicide bombs." This isn't an issue of suicide, because if somebody wants to commit suicide they usually go off and kill themselves and don't involve anyone else, but these young children and being taught to be genocide bombs to kill a race or a people, or homicide bombs to commit murder on innocent people. We saw the ultimate of what happens when young children like this grow up, when we saw the 19 martyrs go into the Twin Towers and kill over 3,000 innocent American victims in 9-11. My shock at having to go through this footage, I was introduced about two years ago to an Algerian, actually a French Jew came to me with some of the footage, and we started working together and putting together. This is selected from hundreds of hours of footage to put together something for you here. So, that little section is just to show that 10,000 children a year go through these summer camps and are trained to be homicide and genocide bombs. A lot of people ask me "Well, what is the issue?" "What is the point of all this?" Well the issue really is Jerusalem. The Arabs want Jerusalem for themselves and do not want to share it with Christians and Jews. It has been quite a new advent, it's only since the 1920's really that Yassar Arafat's uncle brought a new awareness to Al-Aqsa Mosque and training these young children to be martyrs for Al-Aqsa or the Rock. So I would like to go into my second section to show you that the issue is Jerusalem, and really to annihilate the Jews so that they can have this position.

(Showing film)

Caryl:
So we see the fervor that is put into these children for jihad, for dying as martyrs. The boys will have virgin girls, and I don't know what quite happens to the girls. That's mind boggling. Anyway, I took out another small segment which is showing that this is here. In my investigations in making this film, I realized that this has been taking place, as a very, very brave young journalist called Steve Emerson, who way before the destruction of the Twin Towers, was warning on the power of terrorism and the infrastructure of terrorism in this country. You will see him standing in front of the Twin Towers, which is very interesting. This little segment was made about ten years before terrorism to show that this 7 million Muslims or more have been funding the Hamas, Hisballa, and Al-Aqsa martyrs. So here is this one other little section for you to see.

(showing film)

Caryl:
Well, those are a few excerpts from my latest film The New Barbarians, Training Children to Kill, and I think it is a very powerful film, not only does it have horrible graphics that come off Arab T.V., but it does enlighten us to the crisis in the Middle East. It gives good history and gives good information. I really would encourage you to get this. I have reduced the price of all of my videos by $5. All videos are $15 and a little booklet about me is free.

I would just like to end, of course I am open to your questions. The visuals that I got off television before I came here this evening was, again, a horrible attack in Israel where a Hamas leader was killed with his family, and the curses that came from the other side is that there is going to be more killing, more children, more families killed. The scriptures do tell us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and that this is going to be where the final battle takes place. I wonder if just before we get to questions and answers, we could just lift up the families and the problems. What we had at 9-11, we had one day one year, they have this everyday, this kind of terror in the Middle East, this terrorism. These young children that go into pizza parlors, and there is footage in this video that shows young children, 14 years old, learning how to strap themselves with detonation and explosives, go into Pizzerias and restaurants where families and children are eating, and blow themselves up. If you remember, three days ago there was a young man masquerading, he was a young Palestinian Arab, masquerading as an orthodox Jew , getting onto a bus and killing people. This is what they live with everyday, and I do encourage us to be able to take some political action. The reason that I make my films is that while I'm sleeping at night, that passing around my message all over the world day and night, and hopefully changing souls, changing minds, and helping people to be exposed to truth, and not enveloped in darkness any longer. Let's have a prayer for the families in the Middle East. The Palestinians are victims, the Palestinians are being used by Arab nations around them. The Palestinians could have had peace in 1948 when Jerusalem, when Israel was given their country. The United Nations also suggested giving Palestine to the Arabs, the Palestinians that were there, but the neighboring Arab nations would not have it. They said "No!" They didn't even want Israel to be a state. They did not want the Jews to have their own country. The Palestinians for the last 50 years have been the pawns of victimization by other Arab nations, by their brothers in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt that have set them up. So, let's remember them all and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

"Lord, I do…..
(Audience clapping)

Caryl:
Thank you. Are there any questions on Harry Potter or The New Barbarians? Any of the videos?

Question:
I was just wondering if you could give any insight about the Israeli policy of blowing Israel up with atomic bombs, rather than be overrun or letting the Arabs, you know, push them out to the sea? Don't they have a policy, military policy, called a Samson, or some other name like that, that says we'll blow ourselves up before we will let the Arabs overrun us? In other words, what I am saying, if that is true, what do the Arabs stand to gain if, you know, you do explode an atomic bomb there, what do they gain? You know, if they blow up Jerusalem they both lose in the end.

Caryl:
No, you are right. This isn't a conflict of any sense. It is a battle of hatred, and these children are incited to such hatred and violence. You can see that basically the issue is that when the United Nations gave Israel the land, that the Arabs did not agree with the United Nations policy. When the ink was hardly even signed on the paperwork, six nations came against the young state of Israel. Israel won, not only through world opinion and the United Nations, in the war field as a young nation they got their land. No, but the issue is that, in fact, Yassar Arafat says that there will be no peace until there is the annihilation of Israel. So, they do not agree that Israel should exist and that they should live there in the Middle East. They want the Middle East as an Arab Nation, and Israel is the only little democracy there. That is the fight. What I say is give the Palestinians their autonomy, let the Palestinians rule, let them be a Palestinian state, and give them their autonomy. The Arab nations around wouldn't stand for that because, if the Palestinians were given democracy and autonomy for local rule……

Question (same person):
(can't hear)

Caryl:
His question is: "Are they willing to see the men blown up, to see the Israelis blown up, to see Jerusalem blown up?" It is a war of hatred. It doesn't make sense. Of course there is no sense in blowing Jerusalem up. That's the conflict.

Carlos (question):
Caryl, I don't condone terrorism, nor do I condone radical Islam, but in my opinion, radical Islam has been financing funds through communist states like China and Russia. Now if you go back historically to who has financed and sustained China and Russia since their inception way back in 1917, your gonna find that it is the banking houses of Wall Street and London, the international banking communities. Okay, and therein lies the root of terrorism. These bankers have also financed Nazism, capitalism, communism, international Zionism, and what they will do is force a clash between all these different ideologies and the clash will result in conflict and chaos. And, out of this chaos they will install a new world order, in essence, a one-world government.
(clapping)
The whole problem lies in Wall Street and London. Let's stop looking at radicalism, let's go to the root of the problem because that's where it's at.

Caryl:
That's right, it is called all sorts of different names. It comes in at all angles, and we can't see, the smoke screen is so big that, you're absolutely right. The question is, what goes on behind the smoke screen and it is all about power and money and world control.

Carlos:
That's why, you know, it's slanted when you show slides like that, showing radical Islam as a bunch of beasts, when they are being manipulated and used.

Caryl:
That's my point, is that these young Palestinian children are being manipulated and abused and used. That is the point. The Palestinians are victims.

Question:
Okay, I have a couple of questions. First, do you know what God is in Chinese, the language? My example is that I do not know, but in Arabic God, I believe in God, Muslims believe in God, and Christians believe in God. God in Arabic is Allah. I know that Christian Lebanese years ago told me that when you go to the Middle East buy a necklace that has Allah. It means God in Arabic. They believe in God, and Abraham is the father of many nations, and it is Abraham's seed, including Palestinian people. We need to understand the Bible and quit misinterpreting and changing doctrination. Also, if you read the Bible, Galatians 3:28-29 it says, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female, for ye are all of one in Christ Jesus, and if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise." According to the Jews, they have not kept the promise, and before 1948, or maybe years before that, Jews, the Sephardic Jews, Jews, Christians, Muslims they lived in peace in Palestine, and I have traveled there many times. They do want peace, they want freedom, it was Palestine from in the Bible, it was called Palestine. It happened in the Balfour Agreement, way back when in 1917, and in 1948 the state of Israel was born by terrorism. These were terrorist groups called the Hagana, the Irgun, the Stern gangs. These were terrorist activities that they did, they even committed terrorism on the British Soldiers and drove the British out, because the British was going to allow the state, for the Jews to have a state. Keep in mind, they wanted first Argentina, they had other countries in mind. So, this is not a Biblical, this is a seizure and steal of land. The people of Palestine have suffered and I wish that you would tell the suffering. What do you say about rocks being thrown? What kind of weapons do the Zionist Jews have? What weapons did they have when they attacked the USS Liberty in 1967? That was a terrorist act. We cannot speak up? What, do we have a controlled media? I love Palestinian people, I love God's people. I'll tell you, we have nothing in common with the Jewish religion, and I have a pamphlet that says what the Jews believe and what Christians believe. Jews do not believe in forgiveness, I mean, I could go on about the differences. We have more in common with the Muslim faith than we do with the Jewish. There is no such thing as Judeochristianity. It is Jesus Christ, and Christ said, "Ye are not of my people, ye are of the devil." Read your Bible. Thank you.

Caryl:
Would you like to give your question?

Question:
I thought you were going to respond to her question.

Caryl:
I don't think that was a question.

Question:
Caryl, is there anything that is going to be done about, from what I depicted from your video there, in showing, what really shocked me, was the training camps here on U.S. soil? They are going to plan some more terrorist acts here in this county, which I pray to God won't happen. Are they being surveilled by the FBI and the CIA with these terrorist training camps around the country? It's just like, let's paint a scenario, going back 60 years ago, if the Germans or the Japanese would have training camps right here in the United States, let's say back in the early 40's like during World War II, and they were planning to take over America. What I am saying, what my point is, is there anything being done to stop this madness of these extreme Muslims, potential terrorists in these children, from doing their deadly and evil acts here to American citizens here on American soil?

Caryl:
That is a very good question. Just in all fairness, those were just excerpts that were taken out of context in the film. I mean, I was just pulling out some clips. But, in that last section that did show what is taking place in America, if you notice, that was footage from 1989 and 1996. So, there has been an awareness for the last 12 years of the growing power of terrorism within America, and it is being watched. I think, I commend the powers that are doing as much as then can. You know, the problem is how can you tell a terrorist? When you see these terrorists dressing as pregnant women or orthodox Jews with robes or whatever, it's hard to, you know, say what a terrorist looks like. So, now there is a lot being done, there is. What I was trying to do in the film was to just bring in an awareness through Middle Eastern, through Arab television, as to what is the indoctrination that is going on there, and to let us see the media from another point of view. We just get American media here, we don't see how serious the situation is.

Question (same person):
Yes, and one more statement. Since 9-11 there have been, I don't know why they have done it, they allowed more young Muslim men into this country from the Arabic Middle Eastern countries. They are up to something, I know that.

Caryl:
Well, you see that, but also you see in the Iraqi war where there are converts to Islam being in the prisons, for instance, it is a tremendous recruiting ground for black Muslims in the prisons. You saw that young American

soldier blow up his fellow soldiers in the Iraqi war within his own ranks and hailed as a martyr. You know, commended for his actions, which was very shocking. The mentality is incredible that these young children are being trained to be human bombs. That was the message that I was trying to put across, that we should have. What about the United Nations going off about the rights of children? What about the incredible cruelty to these young children in Palestine and Arab nations? We should be up in arms about that.

Question (same person):
We should be up in arms about these training camps on American soil. I think the FBI, CIA, the Army, whoever, should put a stop to this madness here, and put these people out of here before they do harm over here like they are doing over there in the Middle East, especially in Israel.
(clapping)

Caryl:
Thank you.

Question:
I am a Jewish convert to Christianity. My background is Jewish and I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior July 22, 1966. I appreciate a lot of what you were telling tonight about paganism and Harry Potter and occultism, and all of that. It is very real. What I would ask you is how can you give the presentation on one side of the Islamic terrorism and ignore Zionist terrorism? Because, it's there. (clapping) It is good that you are exposing one side of it, and a lot of people only expose the other side of it. But, an overview of the whole situation is that both sides are being manipulated.

Caryl:
The issue I was trying to raise here is that young children from the age of 2or 3 years old are being trained in camps as genocide bombers. Whatever is the Zionist terrorism, I don't think young children are being trained to incite hatred to violence, to go into public places to become genocide, homicide bombers.

Voice from the audience:
We're just bulldozing their homes down with tanks and all that.

Caryl:
You know, that is another issue, and this particular one was just showing the indoctrination of children, the brainwashing of children, which is my field and my area. That this is absolutely outrageous. It's outrageous that young children are being trained what adults do, as adult people who go into armies and decide to war on one side of an issue and another on what is being done by elder, older people through their free choice is something else. These are young children that are being indoctrinated and brainwashed at a young age to eat human flesh, as this young boy was saying that he will eat his conquerors flesh, that they have got guns to shoot the Jews, to butcher the Jews. That is the outrageous behavior that I am trying to bring out, that is part of an indoctrination program through children's programming, children's cartoons. You will see it in the film that I have left in the entire animation in children's programming just to show what they are being taught to do.

Question (same person):
Well, it is good that you are exposing that. I just want to close real quick by saying that as a born again Christian, there is nothing in common with the gospel of Jesus Christ and Judaism, Islam, or any religion.

Caryl:
I agree.

Question: (same person):
No connection whatsoever. It is unique.

Caryl:
I agree, because one is a God of mercy and love and forgiveness, and the other is hatred, inciting violence and teaching young children, this is a learned behavior, children do not learn how to hate and become violent. In fact, children want to be loved by adults and want to do good. This is an issue of unbelievably abusive brainwashing and indoctrination.

Question (same person):
And I see a future restoring Israel, but the modern state of Israel is counterfeit.

Caryl:
Thank you.

(clapping)

Question:
Caryl, thank you for giving us a important piece of a very big puzzle. My question concerns Harry Potter. When I was growing up you saw Wizard of Oz, the good and the bad witch. If you wanted to read comics there was Casper the Friendly Ghost, you get the idea, and Halloween, I'm really dating myself now, kids actually were left on their own to go up and down the neighborhoods, and some were dressed in witches costumes. I guess, what I'm asking is, does Harry Potter differ in some important way from these childhood experiences of my own that I've mentioned? Or, is there a continuity there that I was unaware of?

Caryl:
Well, I think the continuity, what I was trying to bring out through the video, Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged, was that the publishers were also the curriculum providers for 80 years, and that this was coming into the schools, being read aloud in the schools. The difference in the Wizard of Oz or Disney is that we knew that there was a bad witch, the witch was evil, or with the witch the nosed twitched and humorously the vacuum went on and, you know, the house was dusted or whatever. But, in this case, this is a boarding school of witchcraft and wizardry, Hogwarts Occult School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, famous for 1,000 years in Europe, supposedly. The teachers there, probably over a dozen, fifteen, twenty lessons that Harry goes from classroom to classroom, and as the various teachers of the occult are teaching on herb mixing, potion mixing, magic mixing, how to cast spells, how to put accents on the right emphasis on ritual magic, nature worship, goddess worship, all the various things that are happening in each year's adventures. The reader is vicariously being taught what the witches in the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry are being taught by their occult adults. So the young reader is being indoctrinated into pagan philosophy and learning how to do the things that Harry and his cohorts are doing. It is being put across in a fascinating and appealing way. We understand that from the newspaper article I read this morning where witches are showing that tremendous interest world-wide is a new interest among children. So what children are learning through Harry Potter is that the children can be involved in witchcraft. That it is a children's religion and can be practiced by children. Where as, technically, witches will tell you that they do not want people joining their coven under 18 years old, because there are sexual rituals and ceremonies that are many times often done, as they call it, in sky cloud or naked, or in moon ceremonies, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So I think the difference, well definitely the difference is that a religion is being taught in a fiction setting. It is called children's literature and read aloud in the classroom, where the Bible is being thrown out and pagan morals are being taught. Harry lies, Harry cheats, Harry steals, and Harry is rewarded for all these things. His teachers commend him when he does immoral, unethical behavior, which most of us as parents wouldn't like our children to do, and certainly wouldn't like the teachers to commend them in doing so. Those are some of the issues.

Question:
I just want to make a few comments. I'll start off with the Harry Potter thing. I personally don't believe in any of this stuff. I think it's all just fantasy BS to me. But, I think the real issue here, as far as the schools teaching that in the schools, I think we need to abolish the government school system. (clapping) People should be able to go to whatever school they want to. If you want to send your kids to religious school or a school that teaches Harry Potter. I grew up in the 70's and 80's, I played video games and read comic books and watched movies and stuff like that, and I think I turned out okay, I'm not a serial killer or anything.

Anyway, getting back to the issue of the whole Israel thing and the terrorism. I remember this gentleman over here brought up how there were training camps in the United States of America. You know after the first Gulf War, under Bush, and the policy continued under Clinton, that Iraqi soldiers were brought into the United States of America by our government. This is all documented. They were working with the CIA and they were involved in blowing up the building in Oklahoma City. So getting back to what this gentleman here said, I think that all this stuff is being concocted to bring about the new world order police state.

Caryl:
I agree.

Question (same person):
Another thing here, I think that we as Americans need to get back to the Constitution. We need to cut off all this foreign aid, get out of the United Nations, and start worrying about what's going on right here in the United States of America. This is the holy land. We're standing in the holy land right now. Whatever goes on over there, if they want to kill each other that's their business. I mean, I would like to see them come to a peaceful settlement and everything, but, you know, this is America and we need to start worrying about ourselves and stop worrying about what is going on on the other side of the planet. (clapping)

Caryl:
Thank you.

Question:
I just had a question about the Harry Potter thing. Is it true that Mrs. Rowling is now a billionaire? I'm just wondering what is her background? What is she doing with her money? What type of alliances or social circle does she have? What type of mindset does she have, as far as, convictions and things like that? Have you done any research on her?

Caryl:
That is a very good question. She is actually richer than the Queen of England. She is, I believe, now, I have forgotten what number, anyway she is very, very, very rich. Interestingly enough, she is the most protected celebrity and public figure. Not a lot of her private information is told about her. I have done research and the most interesting thing to see is what her money is spent on, and it's the social activities that she puts her money into that concern me the most. She supports third world countries, in the sense of abortion and sterilization, the homosexual agenda, the socialist agenda in many third world countries. I think that tells a lot about her political activism. Also, she named her daughter after Jessica Mitford, who she said gave her the greatest, who was her political mentor. If you just look at Jessica Mitford's life, you will see that she was an English conservative, Lord and Lady Mitford's family and the children married into communist families that came over here to America and formed the Communist Party here in America. So to name her daughter after Jessica Mitford, I think, says a lot about her political positioning.

Question (same person)
This is just a side thing. I can't remember the exact name, but about a year ago on a talk show I saw a woman who claimed that she had the original idea and had written a book with a very similar name of Harry Potter. I can't remember that exact name, and she had a lawsuit claming that the original story was plagiarized and stolen, and she was trying to go after copyright. Do you know anything about that?

Caryl:
Yes I do. I vaguely remember that. I think it was over the word Mugles and other things that she felt that J.K. Rowling had taken some of her words. Well, J.K. Rowling has probably plagiarized or borrowed from a lot of mythology, classical Greek mythology, Folklore, Celtic beliefs and all sorts of things. Words like the Mugles, etcetera are very English words. I mean to be called a Mugle is a fool. Of course Mugles are those who do not believe in witchcraft, in the Harry Potter series. So to be a Mugle, is to be a fool or somebody that….. I do remember that particular case. I don't think she won anything, because I think they were just words that were taken from all sorts of potpourri selections of things.

Question:
Okay, one of my questions has already been asked, but I don't remember if you said anything. Why are they letting them into the United States and why are they letting them have camps? Are the FBI or anybody looking into it, do you know?

Caryl:
I do believe that terrorism has had such a focus with officials in the country, and of course they have been very aware. They haven't always taken seriously. I believe that apparently two or three days before 9-11 happened there was a warning that it was going to happen. I believe the Jewish intelligence had told them six weeks or two months before that there was going to be something happening. I think a lot of things are taken seriously and watched.

Question (same person):
Yes, I do know one of the fellows that did bring that forth about a year before that, did talk about that. He is a man that is in the movie, We are Soldiers Once and Young, that is the name of the book that it was taken from. Rick Rescorla is the man's name. He was killed in the building, the Twin Towers when they went down. He did do a video, it was shown on national television about them flying a plane into the towers. He is the one that got the people out in 1992. He is the same man. But, when he went back in 9-11 he was killed in the collapse of the towers, but that's a sidetrack anyway. I have had Muslims tell me we have the same God, and if you look, then why don't we have the same Bible? Why doesn't it translate to the same? It does not, so we do not have the same God. So that is another issue you might want to address. This is another one, the Muslims are training their children to use guns, what are we doing? We're taking our guns away. We are teaching our children to be afraid of guns. (clapping)
We are disarming, and this is wrong, and I can hear by the applause that everyone agrees. The other thing that we must look out for, someone else already addressed this, I thank him for doing that, is that blacks and Hispanics, Mexicans, are being recruited in the prisons and jails because they are disgruntled and they go after them to say join us, we'll be strong, we'll go after the oppressors, the whites, the Christians, the Jews. So, these are the ones to be careful of. Let your Hispanic friends and your black friends know that they are being had, they are being lied to.

Caryl:
Thank you. Thank you very much. I would also just like to follow up on that. When people say that the Muslims and Christians have the same God, the Muslims do believe in a god they call Allah, but to say that Muslims and Christians worship the same God under different names is quite wrong. Christians worship the Holy Trinity, the Creator of the Universe, the One True God, a God of love without beginning and end. Allah actually is the God of hatred and a god without a son in the Bible. I've got over 100 verses in the Koran that shows, and actually anybody can go into Amazon.com and read the Koran for themselves to see that it is a terrorist training manual, and certainly not, and I am not saying that there aren't wonderful Muslims. I am not saying that, but I am saying that the Koran is a book on terrorism.

Question:
Yeah, they said that like Rowling was on welfare in England while she was writing, is that true?

Caryl:
Well, that's of course the whole thing of lifting her up as the single mom, the welfare mom, and that was all part of the media hype of showing how a single woman can come up and actually got to her feminist roots quite strongly, and lifted up the single woman. Now she is married so they have kept that one very quiet.

Question (same person):
I also wanted to mention, we even have a mosque in Burbank now, believe it or not, on Burbank Boulevard. You wouldn't even know by the building, it's a little innocuous building, it looks like an office or a store, nothing written on it. But, at night when they are having their meetings they are being protected by the Burbank Police Department. This was going on well, well, ten years ago, it's been going on that long, so it's well before 9-11. It's down there between Buena Vista and Chili Johns. The police have been guarding these people for like a decade or more, before anything was happening. I thought it was kind of unusual that they are being protected, but for what reason until now all this turmoil.

Caryl:
Interesting.

Question:
I just want to give out a website, some of you people here might know about it. There is a really good website called infowars.com. It has a large section about terrorism and 9-11. It has tons of documented information, it's irrefutable. Everybody here, if you haven't been to the website, you ought to go check it out, infowars.com. That's all.

Caryl:
I-n-f-o wars.com

Question:
I wanted to comment on Scientology, if you could talk about that. Also, you didn't mention about the Talmid, you were talking about the Bible, the Koran, all the religions derive from the Old Testament. All the religions derive from the Old Testament, most of them. You should talk about the Talmid, how they call people galain, you talk about infidels, what about galains, the Jews preached that.

Question:
Yes, I have an economical way to help the problem over there, it might save us over 10 billion a year, to quit giving this foreign aid to Israel and every other country too.

Caryl:
Last one.

Question:
Yes, are you tracking Rowlings and her activities or the phenomenon of the books, or is there any other researcher or website that you could give us where we could kind of get more information on what Rowlings is doing since she has so much money?

Caryl:
Well, the reason that I knew what she had done with her money, I find it very interesting, about three years ago when book #1 came out and consecutively for the next three years books #2, #3, and #4 came out, then there was a gap of two years until this book that is coming out now on June 21st. Meanwhile, Warner Bros made a film on book #1, which they said was an accurate portrayal of witchcraft, that was the film. Then, of course, the second year was the Warner Bros film based on book #2. So there has been an indoctrination each year, year by year, that hundreds of thousands of children have been systematically targeted. In Amazon.com there are over 18,050, the last time I counted, books on witchcraft targeted at young children. So if they have read Harry Potter, then the New Age section, which is right next to the Harry Potter displays, encourage children to go into witchcraft for children. So, the reason I was able to track down J.K. Rowling's money was because that year, the year that she didn't come out with the book, I noticed that she was giving two books free, that she wasn't apparently collecting any money on two little small booklets. I don't know if they were released in this country, but they were released in Europe. That's when I started following where was the money going to that was coming in for the sales of those books. I noticed that they went into two charities that she had set up. Then I looked into what the charities were funding and that's when I realized that her enormous, enormous amounts of money were going into population control, sterilization, abortion, and other issues in third world countries. I think you can see that a lot of what she is doing, not probably where her money is being spent, but Scholastic Inc., the site, her publishers give a lot of her sort of popcorn image, the fluffy image that they want the public to see. You can delve, you can find out. If I can do it anybody can.

Question (same person):
Are you going to continue to track her on your website?

Caryl:
I will try. I have a lot of stuff that I am trying to catch up with, but certainly I will certainly try to expose as much as I can on my website.

Question (same person):
And what is your website?

Caryl:
It's Caryltv.com. C-a-r-y-l tv.com. I have got it on the table at the back there. Caryltv.com. And I've got this, which is a freebie booklet for you, my card is in the front page and it has got my e-mail address and web page and everything in it. Please keep in touch.

Question (same person):
Have you in your research, have you run across any other people like yourself or groups that are interested in this woman's activities and her background? An interest in analyzing the phenomenon of the books?

Caryl:
The Harry Potter issue has created a tremendous controversy. There are a few of us that are doing research. There is an author called Richard Abanes who has written a book on Harry Potter, but that is more less the philosophical view, you know, why we shouldn't be involved in witchcraft. There is a young man there that said that he didn't believe in all that stuff. Witchcraft, obviously, God thought seriously enough about it in the Bible to tell us not to be involved in it and not to tamper with it and be persuaded and fascinated with it, so obviously God thinks it is serious enough to be warned about.

Question (same person):
At the other end, the witch groups themselves, have they had anything to say about her or about looking at her, approaching her as the benefactor for their activities?

Caryl:
They commend her, they thank her very much for getting hundreds and thousands of children around the world interested in witchcraft. They see her as being very insightful about the occult. On radio stations that I have listened to that she is involved in, callers will call and say you are obviously a very astute occultist because you know a lot. And, she does. She is very, very knowledgeable. She has brought witchcraft into a very credible place and a religion for young children. That is, I think, the most dangerous. Where years ago one had to go into dark alleys and secret places to learn anything about occultism or the dark arts, nowadays you can get it at Barnes and Noble in little children's witch kits, training young children.

Question (same person):
Do you plan on doing any videos in the future on the activities of these witch groups now that she has created this phenomenon?

Caryl:
You can go into the web page and you will see the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pagan sites. Go into witch, just type in witches, you will see, or pagans. In one of the school curriculums that I mentioned in the Harry Potter video, in one of the books that was a school recommended book, they gave the actual addresses of pagan sites to go into. When I went into the pagan sites the witches thanked me for my interest and wrote me back e-mails. Now if young children are doing this and not being able to discern, that's the worry. That is the worry, because they are being given answers to very, very good questions by pagans and people from an alternative…….

Question:
I just wanted to respond to the thing…..

Caryl:
About you being handsome?

Question (same person):
…..about the Harry Potter stuff not being true. You know, it's like you can take 1,000 people, kids, and have them watch Superman, and there are going to be a few kids that are going to be dumb enough to put a cape on and jump off the roof, you know. So, I mean different things effect people in different ways. Most people can see something and realize that it is all fiction, there are always going to be people who are dumb enough or who were raised wrong by their parents that are going to take it seriously. I think the bottom line is that we need to get rid of the government schools and people teach their children their values, and that's the bottom line.

Caryl:
Thank you. Thank you all very, very much for your questions.
Thank you.